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PostPosted: 25-Jan-2010 4:54 
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Znam da mi za menjac treba ulje 75w90 (ovo je i za temperature ispod 0 za razliku od 80w90 koje je samo do nule ili malo preko a i 80w90 je 3 puta jeftinije, cisto da znate razliku)
i hteo sam da uzmem mobil ali na jednom sajtu mazda usa ili aus nisam siguran nadjem gde covek napisa da mobil u toj gradaciji vise nije dobar kao sto je pre bio i da se ne pravi na bazi kao pre nego neka druga mu je osnova koja nije dobra za menjac.Od ulja koje je pomenuo jedino motul mi zvuci poznato.
Nisam kuci trenutno pa nemam taj citat ali cu ga iskopirati pa da vidite.
Moje pitanje je da li da uzmem neko drugo ulje elf, total, lukoil, texaco, valvoline ili motul i kakva su vam iskustva sa njima?

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Kada sam menjao ulje u menjacu na BA, sipao sam Motul, ali iz razloga sto sam i sva ostala ulja (motor i kocnice) takodje uzeo Motul.

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ja kod kolege sipao liquy molly, i njegova tvrdnja je da rucica ide mnogo lakse

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Manual Transmissions (G15M-R)
The capacity is ~ 2.83 qts (2.68L). The FSM specifies SAE 75W-90 (all season) or SAE 80W-90 if the temperature never falls below 50 deg F (10 deg C). Suitable synthetic replacement oils are as follows:

Amsoil Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube; SAE 75W-90, API GL-4, Product Code: MTG This is Amsoil's currently recommended oil for this application.
http://www.amsoil.com

Fuchs-Silkolene: Silkolene Silktran SYN 5; SAE 75W-90, API GL-4/5. A fully synthetic M/T oil that, according to the manufacturer, is ideal for road and competition limited-slip differentials. May be used where conventional SAE 90, 85W-90 or 80W-90 lubricants are recommended.
http://www.silkoleneoil.com
Fuchs-Silkolene is a British/German company. For a list of distributors in North America, go to:
http://www.fuchs-oil.com/worldwide.1.html?ziel=9&EN

Motul Gear 300 SAE 75W-90; API GL-5
http://www.motul.com
Motul is a French company with many distributors in North America as a Google search will indicate.

Red Line MT-90 SAE 75W-90; API GL-4. According to Red Line, it has the appropriate coefficient of friction for most manual transmission synchronizers. Red Line claims that many gear oils, engine oils and ATFs are too slippery for proper synchro engagement.
http://www.redlineoil.com

Torco RTF Racing Transmission Fluid: SAE 75W-90; SAE 80W-90; API GL-6. According to the manufacturer, this oil, derived from Group IV/V base stocks, is suitable for both racing and street use. As noted above, API GL-6 is an obsolete classification. It would provide a level of EP additive protection far in excess of anything our M/Ts currently require.
http://torcooil.com

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Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-90; API GL-5 and Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF have been removed from our list of M/T and ATF lubes believed to be fully synthetic. Discussions on the various oil forums and revised information on Mobil 1's website indicate that the oil is no longer derived solely from Group IV (PAO) base stocks but rather from hydrocracked Group III petroleum stocks with some PAO stock added as a finishing component to enhance overall performance. Thus, Mobil 1 is no longer considered a true synthetic by the standards we're applying here.

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Ti nemaš menjač iz G serije, već F, isto kao i mi na benzinki ;)
Sipao sam taj Motul 300 u gradaciji 75w90.

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PostPosted: 25-Jan-2010 10:04 
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Iz ovog tvog teksta se vidi da je jedini razlog brisanja Motul-a sa liste to što više nije full sintetičko ulje, što ne znači da je lošije. Sam Motul tvrdi da je promenio bazu zarad poboljšanja performansi, što zvuči razumno. Ni jedna renomirana kompanija neće namerno degradirati sopstveni proizvod, naročito ako se zna da su često njihovi proizvodi predmet nezavisnih ispitivanja. Obzirom da je lista koju si citirao vezana samo za sintetička ulja a da je Motul-ovo ulje sada faktički polu-sintetika time je i izbrisano sa liste.

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Pretpostavljam da si se zakucao pa pises motul umesto mobil ali ti oprastam :D
Ako je mobil polusintetika da li onda da idem na sintetiku za menjac?

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Da, zakucah se. Bio je ovo dug dan. U svakom slučaju, nije ti važno da li je menjačko ulje sintetičko (full sintetičko kako ovi tvoji citirani insistiraju) ili polu-sintetičko (ja ga tako imenovah u nedostatku boljeg naziva). Menjačko ulje ne dolazi u kontakt sa visokim temperaturama (ne gori) kao motorno ulje, i nema iste zadatke kao motorno ulje tako da i struktura baze ulja nema isto značenje (važnost). Ako se pridržavaš opšte smernice i vršiš zamenu menjačkog ulja svakih 50.000 do 100.000 Km nećeš imati nikakvih problema koja god da je baza (sintetička ili polu-sintetička) iskorišćena.

A da, ti voliš da ti se kaže kratko. Uzmi "Motul". :D

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Samo te citam i pitam se dokle ces :lol :lol :lol

Kazi motul da te svi razumemo :bravo

Mada pogledacu specifikaciju i mobila ali uzdrmase me ovi americani :?

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Evo mene opet.
Pre neki dan u jednoj prodavnici vidim ulje za menjac total 75w80 cena oko 800rsd.
Koliko sam video ovo ulje ima manju viskoznost tj valjda je tecnije od ove verzije 90 , neko ce me ispraviti.
Mene zanima da li to moze u menjac jer je cena duplo manja od mobila 75w90 a prodavac se kune da je to isto.Naravno on bi i majku prodao da moze pa ga ne uzimamo ozbiljno.

za 75w90 total kaze ovo
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Fully synthetic multi-grade T.D.L. gear oil for synchronised and non-synchronised manual gearboxes and axles. Very high performance. Recommended for manual gearboxes and axles requiring API, GL-5, API GL-4 or API MT-1 level.


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API GL-4, API GL-5, API MT-1, MACK GO-J, MAN 3343 type SL, MIL-L-PRF-2105E, SCANIA STO 1:0 (gearboxes), ZF TE-ML: 02B, 05B, 07A, 12B, 16F, 17B.


a za 75w80 malo skromnije
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Synthetic based oil designed for the lubrication of synchronised or non-synchronised manual transmissions.


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Specifications
API GL 4, MAN 341 type TL, ZF TE-ML 02D.


ima li se smisla upustati u 75w80 avanturu?

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Sta pise u knjizici?

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za sve temperature 75w90
za iznad 10c 80w90
GL4 ili GL5 u oba slucaja

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75w90, onda.

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el ti to mene .... il se nisi naspavao?
a da malo procitas od pocetka?

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Znam sta pise, ali ti kazem da batalis taj 75w80.

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pa ako gledas knjigu tamo i za motorno ulje pise Sg,Sh ili SJ a mislim da je to davno prevazidjeno.
za sve je kriv roki koji je rekao da mi treba 80w90 i onda mi bacio buvu jer je 80 za 10+ zato i polemisemo na temu uljeta.

sad ce Cybland odnekle...

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ja cu sipati sta god ti doneses mozda je bolje 75w 90 brze ce da ide :lol4

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Kupio sam Motul 75w-90 i sad samo da nadjem vremena da mi ovaj saljivdzija to ulije da ne kazem sune. :D
Valjda ce 3 litre biti dosta ako zafali sipacemo zejtin.

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Koliko para i gde?

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Aleksandar 850 po litrici. ima i dexelije 5w30 pa se nosim mislju da sledecu zamenu ulja u motoru uradim mazdinim uljem ono je oko 800rsd.

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PostPosted: 25-Feb-2011 10:27 
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jel 323 bj znači određenu šasiju pošto sam primetio da moju zovu bg.. valjda skraćeno od početnih slova jmzbg
uglavnom i na mom autu je interval za zamenu ulja u menjaču na negde 50-100.000Km pa me zanima koliko je to važno da se odradi i da li bi i meni odgovaralo to 75-90 i kog proizvođača

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Da, odredjena sasija modela.
U principu vazno je, tj. treba menjati kako je propisano i preporuceno od strane fabrike!
Samo ti menjaci su tako kvalitetno napravljeni, da sam ja recimo na BG presao oko 80 000km bez ulja u menjacu i nije riknuo, pa ti vidi... :care

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Da zavrsim temu jer sam promenio ulje konacno pa sada guramo dalje.

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PostPosted: 01-Mar-2011 1:02 
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I ja sam rešio da ovih dana obradujem moj menjač sa novim uljem (mislim da to nikada na autu nije rađeno :cry: ), nadam se da nisam mnogo zakasnio :(


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Što volim sto sam expeditivan :zid1: ..kupio sam konačno ulje za menjač, samo pola godine od prethodnog posta :zid1: Uzeo sam 75w-90 lukoil polusint. gl5 cena 639din/l. Žao mi što nisam uzeo kod Alexandra kad sam bio u Bgd. bilo je motula iste gradacije za 700din/l ali dok sam ja našao radnju čovek zatvorio, tako da valjda će i ovo da bude OK. Javljam da li ima boljitka čim bude zamenjeno :ziveli


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